Team National a scam

by team green
(Kansas City, MO)

Team national seems to have found good deals and is charging a ridiculous amount of money for the convenience.


Team National Is a MLM multi level marketing company that provides savings off the retail price. In almost all cases you would be able to find the same discount or better by searching the Internet.

Team National Scam is what the company should be called. Team National complaints are all over the internet . The Team National website doesn't provide people with information because they know that that the only way that they will be able to make people sign up is to put people in the pressure situations in which they feel like they are helping out their family and friends.

800 dollars plus is a lot to help out the family. When I searched for information about them asking for a list of discounts I notice that it really doesn't tell you much. Every term that I've searched to get to know about the experience of other people (team national scam, team national complaints, team national pyramid scheme, team national review, team national mlm scam) have found that nobody seems happy with the company.

The discounts that they provide aren't exlusive to being a member of Team National.

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Scam? Hardly!
by: Anonymous

I joined Team National just 6 months ago and I can honestly say that it was one of the best decisions of my life. When my friend approached me about Team National, I was as skeptical as they come. After I was shown the presentation, I waited on signing up and I researched TN on my own. I am a traditional business owner so I wanted to be sure it was all legit.

First of all, I have a wife and 3 kids in the driving age so my insurance was extremely expensive. Every 6 months, I go through the process of contacting my insurance company trying to get cheaper insurance. I call multiple other insurance companies for quotes as well. Well, my friend told me that he can get me a quote through an insurance company that was a Team National member.

The quote came back and they could save me a little over $2000 a year. Here is the best part, it was with the EXACT same insurance company, and the insurance had more coverage too! That is what ultimately sold me.

I also enrolled my traditional business in what they call The Business Exchange, which is thousands of local businesses all over the country and they offer discounts to TN members. Team National advertises your business to the hundreds of thousands of TN members for $100 a year. $100?!?!

Where can you advertise to that many people for that cheap of a price? In just 4 months of being enrolled to the business exchange, I have generated over $5000 in additional income at my business from TN members only and I offer all members a 10% discount. That has definitely got me excited.

I have found that there are a good bit of people I personally know that are members and they have saved a lot of money and are making a lot of money with the company as well. Team National is not for everyone. It depends on your spending habits on how much money you will save and how fast you will save it and it depends on your time put in to how much money you will make.

The best thing about this entire experience is the friends that I have made. That is invaluable! True, honest, and greatly caring individuals just trying to make a difference in the world. If you have doubts about joining Team National, I strongly recommend change your thinking.

For those of you that keep saying this is a Pyramid Scheme, I'm sorry but you are ignorant. Pyramids have been illegal for 40 years, and if you think that the hundreds of Fortune 100 and Fortune 500 companies that have partnered up with Team National (Walmart, Home Depot, Lowes, Target, Tractor Supply, etc.) would even think about getting into an illegal scheme, you are sadly mistaken.

This concept is similar to a Co-Op. Group buying power is what it is. When you personally meet people in this business and watch them grow and retire from their jobs at 35 years old, it makes you see the whole picture. Its DEFINITELY not a get rich quick scheme, but it is possible to get rich quick with Team National. Its part time work, not no time.

If you put forth some effort, you will get results. The more effort you put in, the better the results will be.

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Commodity
by: Anonymous

I met up with a member of TN and after offering the package to me I told them no. After that the member avoided me and treated me like a pariah since I didn't jump up in with his scam. He treated me like a commodity and when you don't play along with them then you're no use to them.

I have had several people say the same thing, you don't bag your friends just because you don't join in with their pyramid scheme.

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Save money but don't think there is BIG money to be made
by: Pam

I joined and made a few checks with hundreds and hundreds of hours of work. The "people helping people" thing was a scam - I did it all myself. Not one of my upline ever placed one single person under me.

When I decided to leave for another opportunity for a product that people actually WANT, they started sending me threatening certified letters stating that I have been reported attempting to recruit some of their people.

WOW. All I did was tell my upline not to keep texting and calling me - not sure what is recruiting about that.

I did not sign any type of non compete agreement with these crooks but they claim that I cannot talk to any TN IMDs for three years and they are considering litigation.

My daughter in college has even gotten the same letters. The Christian company threatening to sue my child.

Run far away from these people...

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Evangelicals
by: Anonymous

The fact that it's usually evangelicals or religious zealots pushing TN is interesting. They might get the water for the kool-aid from the same spring.

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😂😂😂😂
by: Anonymous

I love that people think they saved 😂😂 This program is simply a scam to sell memberships. You saved nothing more than you could have saved if doing the research yourself. You don't need a membership to do research. I always say if it's so good everyone would be doing it .... hint hint amazon.

Membership are not a new thing everyone knows that but save your money MLM is never a good membership and only a small % of people at the very top are making any kind of real money.

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BEWARE
by: Anonymous

BEWARE of Dr. Mike, IMD Mphs, TN. He is NOT an honest representative of this company and will LIE to get your money.

BEWARE!

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TEAM SCAM
by: Anonymous

This company is just like every other pyramid scheme. It's a joke. My husband and I were suckered into this company by people that we thought were our friends. They are bullies, the rebates are a joke and the only time someone was nice was when I called to cancel the membership.

DO NOT fall for any of the lines that they throw at you.

It's all lies.

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Your savings...
by: Anonymous

Your 'savings' are considered TAXABLE INCOME...that means, YOU PAY TAXES on the money you SUPPOSEDLY SAVE. I know FIRST HAND that some of the SALES INDIVIDUALS definitely LIE about what THEY SAY their family members SAVED...sometimes, they have videos of family members LYING about how much they saved on vehicles.

BEWARE ....just say NO!

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Ignorance is bliss
by: Chad

Saved 2500 a this year on home and auto insurance. These negative comments are most likely made by lazy people who got burned because they thought the money would just shower on them!

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NOT a scam! Great company! We love it!!
by: Scott Gondesen

We joined Team National about 6 months ago. We saved the cost of our premium membership in the first two months doing our Christmas shopping, and have already earned commission checks to create positive cashflow for our family. We also won a free cruise with a balcony suite and had the time of our lives getting to know more people in this awesome company.

Team National is an extremely ethical company. They are recognized by the Direct Selling Association and the Better Business Bureau. The CEO also chairs the ethics committee for the DSA. In my experience, people who have bad things to say either don't understand what the company is about, or are too lazy to try and would rather just bash other people's success who actually work for it.

There is nothing wrong with MLM, either. It's no different than having a regular job and trying to work your way to the top. The folks at the bottom are making money for leaders in any company. However, the big difference with TN is that ANYONE has the ability to rise to the top. It doesn't take a college degree, or kissing up to the boss to get ahead.

It just takes putting in some work that is fun and helps others. The top leaders are everyday people who are some of the finest and most honest individuals I have ever known. TN is like a family or a brotherhood of sorts. We look out for each other, we help each other, we do life together. To understand how awesome it is, you just have to join up and try it out.

For anyone that joined that feels they are not getting their money's worth, or who are skeptical but want more information, please contact us and we will be happy to help. Visit our website at www.gondesen.com for more information on how to contact us.

Blessings and peace,

Scott G.

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Best investment for a lifetime
by: Anonymous

We have already saved what we paid for the membership in a couple of months!! Then the exciting part is getting checks on Mondays just by sharing our new life. I was one of the non believers!

My husband saw where he could leave a legacy to our children and grandchildren many years from now. Well we are seeing it now!! I was the one that blamed others, I was the one that thought life was working Mon-Fri and having 2 days to spend with family, that's just life!

Thank GOD my husband wanted a change in our household. We went down a different path, a different curvy road, a road others think that it would be weird, a road less traveled!!

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Show actual savings up front
by: Anonymous

If the percentage of savings is so good why don't they let you see it before you become a member?

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Old warhorse buyers club scam
by: Anonymous

Save your money and do NOT join up with Team National. $2200 for lifetime family scambership. No real savings exist. It is a sleazy MLM with very active folks that pepper sites like this with glowing reviews.

This is one of the granddaddy schemes. Pay now for big savings later.

They don't exist.

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Skeptic turned believer by using the product
by: Anonymous

My husband bought the savings plan 6 months ago. I was like, "meh..." I'm a very skeptical person. So I didn't look at it, use it, figured if it was network marketing it couldn't be a viable product.

But then needed to spend money on car rentals, car repairs, and home furnishings. Well, I was WRONG about Team National. I saved a chunk of money, and I compared prices, leaving no rock unturned! I then started following a Facebook page "Savings by TN Members, " and realized the posts were not hyped or fabricated.

I understand the cynicism, I was too. And as in any large organization, you have happy customers and some not so happy. Happy employees, some not so happy. Though I guarantee that most TN membership holders that actually use the website are satisfied customers. Real True savings.

Now I'm looking into the money that can be made referring it. Mind blowing.

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Bottom feeders pay the price
by: Anonymous

I am watching family members fall for this hook line and sinker while losing their retirement income buying rubbish they don't need, to be able to say how much they saved as I see photos of the top dogs in Tuscany.

And look who is paying for their luxury trips. The bottom feeders. I honestly don't know how people can be so gullible. Sad but it has caused a rip in the family. That in itself is a cost that the bottom feeders aren't reporting.

Losing family and friends.

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No Easy Money in MLM Scams
by: Anonymous

I will never understand the gullibility of people that I consider intelligent getting involved in multi-level marketing - network marketing schemes (i.e. pyramid schemes).

At the risk of 'stepping on toes' of friends, colleagues and relatives people seldom 'tell the truth' to victims and perpetrators of these bogus plans. Most of the victims and the perpetrators are one and the same persons. This subject is seldom discussed publicly.

This editorial comes on the heels of the king of MLM, Amway, being brought to trial for its lies, frauds, and scams. Amway is merely a well known MLM company being exposed for what it really is. However, countless MLM companies have faded away without fanfare and many of these were guilty of far more crimes than Amway.

Most people have been involved in an MLM scam at one time or another. I have been involved in a couple in the past too. Common sense, for most of us that have been led down this primrose path of lies, tells us from experience this 'crap' simply doesn't work, or pay off.

Some of the best products in the world have been developed or promoted by MLM companies. The sheer success of a good product in an MLM company is one reason for the company's failure.

The 'marketing plan' is based on a mathematical algorithm doomed to failure. As such, the excellent products have disappeared into oblivion.
The first 'hook' to get a person to listen to the MLM lie is the speech of how you are going into business for yourself, how you are going to empower your life and your income, how you are going to create a 'residual' income for life for you and your family, and how much money you are going to make. These masters of mind control actually convince people that they are taking control of their future and their income. It's all a lie.

Empowerment is the word or the concept they use to manipulate people into believing in this pyramid scheme. Many believe in these schemes like a cultish religion, chasing one failed scheme after another, never learning their lesson. These people are NOT stupid, in fact they are usually intelligent people, but have been brainwashed through the sales hype and through greed.

Even having experienced failure after failure of MLM pyramids, wasting countless hours for a failed company, wasting their lives on failed schemes, they are so deluded, like 'dogs returning to their own vomit,' they seek out another MLM scam to be involved in.

MLM pyramids are simply an illusion of success and empowerment. You will hear of the 'matrix' and how this matrix will force people under your level in the pyramid to finance you for life. MLM (network marketing, pyramids) advocates promote an illogical illusion based on their own delusions. Mathematically the entire marketing scheme and scam is destined to fail.

The marketing plan changes all the time! Why? The changes are always presented to the marketers as in their best interests and so they will make more commission. None stop to think that changing of the plan is due to failure of the existing plan. If they increase the commission rate, it usually means the company is not growing and the increased rate is to encourage marketers to bring in more people at the bottom level to feed the top level. When the company decreases the rate of commission or earnings, the company is at 'critical mass' internally and financially.

They are discouraging growth -- they can no longer meet their obligations. Commission checks start arriving late.

MLM companies, successful products or not, are doomed to fail. Most of these MLM companies are created, set up, and run by the same people, over and over again. They are professional con-artists, in that they know that all the profits really go to the top of the pyramid, where they hold the top spots. The top of the pyramid is usually a close knitted clique that is making huge amounts from all the work of the middle of the pyramid workers. They throw out a bone to upper middle pyramid workers every month or so. This is their 'token' winners to prove to the lower slaves in the pyramid that the scheme works.
When they 'finish' off one MLM company, they go and create a new one to scam the slaves with.

They are good speakers - good at mind control, mass persuasion, and manipulation.

Ethics is not a concept used in MLM companies. For however they present their plan, how honest they think they are, the MLM scheme cannot succeed. It is unethical to sell dreams to a needy and poor public. Dreams of success in income, residuals, retirement, and so on are unethical methods to move overpriced products into the garages around the country.

Con-artists appeal to the base needs of people, utilizing Maslo's hierarchy of needs. So do MLM companies. Using Maslo's chart to fulfill a need is not unethical, but to appeal to those needs to provide nothing but a lie is unethical and should be illegal. It is certainly immoral.

Take the MLM presenter showing the chart the company has provided for instance. They show you the pyramid and elaborate for hours on how theirs is not truly a pyramid. It's another lie. Regardless of how wide the base of the pyramid is, it is still a pyramid. Once the pyramid, the bottom level is larger than the resources of the company, the chart is a fraud. They are presenting a marketing scheme that is never going to be achievable.

Instead of empowering a person the MLM company is enslaving the person. The company is using the 'MLM' distributors' investment, resources, marketing abilities, and other talents FOR FREE. They don't stop and put a pencil to the math used to create the so-called MLM marketing setup. The algorithm reaches out to infinity. To overcome this, MLM con-artists paint a false picture of reality, a false picture of success. They create a 'family' which becomes very cultish.

If everyone in the cult 'believes' then everyone gives the appearance of success, when in fact they have been cheated out of their talents and their labors. I am all for people taking back control of their lives and their way of making a living. I am all for a person's self empowerment.

It will not be found in MLM scams.

The tenant of the wise consumer remains: "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is."
Don't sell your independence, your control, your power to any MLM type scheme. Don't give up control of your own destiny. Don't give up control of your own income to a promise that can be nothing but a lie. The answer for self empowerment does not lie in false promises and lies.

I found this empowerment years ago when I got tired of climbing the corporate ladders and playing the games to get ahead. Make an objective list of your talents. Find out what you do that is equal or better than most people can do. Everyone has a saleable talent or skill. Locate your niche in the marketplace and go after your share. Expect to fail and fail again at first, but keep your eye on YOUR OWN GOAL and keep going after it until you succeed.

This is not only the answer and cure for you and your family; this is the cure for what is wrong in America. I know many people will be mad or shocked that an editorial of this nature has been written, but I challenge them to take a good hard look at the experience rate of success of MLM schemes.

It's not a pretty picture, but one of failure after failure.

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Scam
by: Anonymous

They paint this pretty picture that you get these big time discounts on new vehicle purchases....it's a joke. $200 under invoice, bought at invoice, etc. etc. etc.

Guess what, I work in the automotive industry and sell new GMC and Buick vehicles at $1,000 to $1,500 under invoice all day every day while team national members assume they are getting a great deal purchasing at invoice, they are actually over paying by $1,000 to $1,500.

Stop falling for this people. It's the biggest scam in the country! Send me a customer that I sell at invoice or $200 under invoice and I'll personally pay you $200 for everyone you send me.

At those numbers the profits are still there! C'mon guys, take the blinders off!

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Team National
by: Anonymous

I joined TN 4 months ago but not for the income side of the business just for the savings side. In 4 months I have already saved more than the life time membership cost.

Home insurance, car insurance, furniture for my basement, and appliances. Clothes, shoes for my kids, etc., I will say that with anything you need to work at it and that includes the savings part as well.

Shop and compare and then see what price is better. In most cases I found TN was better but not in all cases.

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STAY AWAY FROM THIS SCAM!!
by: King

People that sell this crap need to learn a real marketable skill so they can offer some sort of valuable service to consumers instead of just trying to scam people.

We checked out the "savings" you're supposed to get with a Team National membership and they are a joke! You'd have to spend $44,000 to get your $2,200 investment back.

You're much better off watching for sales.

And... They do plaster God all over it - RED FLAG!!!

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Savings and Earnings paid for my Membership
by: Todd Harold

We joined TN March 2015. Two years ago we roofed our house with material from Home Depot at a cost of $4850.00 (+ tax and no cash back), we had gone to Walmart countless times and spent way more then we originally planned to, as we all do.

I buy all my auto supplies at Advance Auto(I'd spent about $12,500 in 2 years before TN,as I build engines and do other mechanical work). I had also been paying $225.00 for 30 GB of data at ATT.

Now here is what I have saved at these stores since March of this year. I built two sheds for my backyard( Home Depot $3600.00 @ 5%=$180.00),ordered online from Walmart and I have received $48 commission and $12.50 pending,I've built one engine and One transmission and saved $128.00 at Advance Auto. I am now saving $40.50 a month at ATT for the data plan(May and June so far). I bought the $795.00 package in March and already saved about $500.00 including of course the $360.00 mentioned here( I've got commission from Footlocker, Under Armour, Sears,etc.).

In Two years we are going to save $972.00 at ATT alone, no telling what I'll save at Walmart and Advance. Also, we have received our first $500.00 check (12.3 and 6) and $125 from hosting. I'll see my $1000.00 within a month (I hope).

This is first a savings membership, so if you earn $20.000.00/ year, do not expect to save $3,000.00 shopping at Walmart, but buy a automobile with that money and yes you could save the $3,000.00 with the TN Auto Mall.

Now... with the earning potential,it does not matter if you make 20K a year or 200K a year, every person has the same opportunity at reaching their financial goals.

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I love Team National
by: Anonymous

I joined three months ago and have already made my money back in savings. Even if you don't use it as a business, you can make your money back in savings in a short amount of time.

I find it hard to believe that opportunists to pay 1/3 of retail on large purchases are just rampant. With Team National, they are real.

My opinion is that anyone who says anything negative has not really looked into it very well and has not looked for savings opportunities.

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Team national member
by: Anonymous

I joined Team National about 3 months ago and have attempted to save money with several purchases only to research and find better savings elsewhere.

The money making potential is real and cannot argue that but the savings is minimal at best. Anyone can find out the invoice price list of a car and that is all they promise. None of my team national IM's can prove the insurance savings as none of them are using it because they cannot save on the insurance with them.

Be aware that this is in no doubt about making money. What other company would only give you 3 days to get out, when it takes 10 days to get your site up and running. Then and only then will you find out the savings is minimal and then it to late to get out.

Dont think just because of the testimonials that by only talking with a few friends and family that you will build the buisness, you are encouraged to make a list of everyone you know, did know, or can remember to try to get in. If you are ok with getting people in to save a little, call a lot of people and cloud the truth long enough to get a sale then this is for you, but not for me.

Would love to get my 2000 dollars back and the money of the one person I talked into getting in before I knew what I know now! The Furniture can be found at multiple warehouse outlets online with free shipping and around the same price if not cheaper by 10 to twenty dollars add that to the price of shipping and handling charged by team national and that is at least 120 dollars cheaper than team national.

They want you to start inviting people over to get downline of you before you even have your website up so you will get hooked on the thrill of the sale and forget about the trying to save money.

If you can live with that carry on my friend....

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Team National seems legit to us...
by: Anonymous

Hi, My wife and I joined around April of last year. While not pursuing the biz side a whole lot I understand we have 22 members already in one of the two teams they would like you to build.

That said, a few months after joining checks from our purchases started coming in, some for over $100 and some for $200 plus and they keep coming, soon we will have paid for the larger membership and should save at least $7,000 within a year or 15 months of joining.

It does all work and the discounts, with some exceptions are the best we have seen, including on the net, 6% at home depot, then we use a Discover card and get another percentage and getting perhaps around 10% off!....It works....go to: bign.com/ewing and look at the videos....

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Appreciate your honesty
by: Anonymous

A friend is trying to pressure us into this "opportunity", and before meeting with him we searched the internet. Thanks to your comments and others who are straightforward, we have been saved from getting involved in this "opportunity".

It appears all the positive comments are from Team National participants who want to keep selling their memberships so they put on a happy face.

Thank You!

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Your research is a joke
by: Robert Beasley

We joined team national over 2 years ago. We got their highest package and have saved 3 times that package. The first week in the company we saved over $1,200 in insurance alone.

We are saving money every month on items we are already buying not items we have to buy in order to save money. People like you and this website gives out false information to mislead people and for them to chose not to set their family and friends free from living a life that is consumed from worry and stress.

Check the Better Business Bureau and you will see that Team National has the highest rating that can be achieved which is A+. If people would get facts before they speak they would not continue to spread lies. A company that standards state to be successful you must have these in order to be successful:GOD,Family and than Team National can never be wrong or unsuccessful.

I will pray that all of those looking for an opportunity will look before judging our company. If you can't formulate your own opinion than someone else has control over your mind.

GOD bless all.

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Our Experience
by: Dean n Missy

My wife and I have been very satisfied customers of Team National for 18 months. We have saved over $10,000.00 on purchases that we were already going to make at the same places!

We also have earned over $10,000.00 and have helped hundreds of families and business owners save and earn thousands. For the naysayers, YES just like any business venture you do have to put forth an effort to earn an income.

Don't be foolish to think that the checks just roll in because you started a business!! The savings have been awesome and the earnings have allowed us choices in our lives but helping others in this down economy has been HEARTFELT!

As an added extra the membership and all business expenses are available as tax write offs because you now are a business owner! The people are very positively motivated with a burning desire to help others!

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Not a Scam
by: Anonymous

You are incorrect. The furniture is factory direct(about 70% off retai) and you can get cars for dealer invoice or below.

Also, they offer a Sears commercial deal that is 15-25% off Sears website. Its a fantastic Company with an A plus Better Business Bureau rating, and endorsed by Christian author/speaker John Maxwell.

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